Despite my best intentions, there are not enough incentives out there for me to spend my time validating and then manually entering human SNPs, that I’ve found during the course of my sequencing various candidate genes for diseases, in the fantastically useful dbSNP database. However, with the advent of high-throughput sequencing and the possibility for large-scale genome annotation, I don’t think that my lack of participation makes such a difference.
It is otherwise with respect to designing and validating primers for PCR. Oh, and if you ever have to teach a trainee about PCR, have a go at the fabulous teaching resources provided by the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. Like this pretty video I can’t seem to embed, but you can look at here.
Anyhow, I wanted to draw your attention to RTPrimerDB. It’s been around a number of years, and has been the object of three readily accessible publications in Nucleic Acids Research as a community resource.
About half of the primers are for human gene expression assays of various types, but there are as of today, more than 800 primers for mouse PCRs of various ilks. I found some to my liking today.
So, in my laboratory, I keep a spreadsheet with a tab for human, a tab for mouse and a tab for chicken. Into this I have added, somewhat indiscriminately and in the order in which they arrive, primers for genomic DNA or cDNA amplification or both, and specify whether or not they are intended for quantitative or end-point PCR. Actually to be brutally honest, I haven’t developed any primers for qRT-PCR for the chicken.
I write on a regular basis to authors who are not among those who increasingly do include their primer sequences in their article submissions, because I am under the misguided illusion that I will save time by using assays that have already been validated by someone else.
Woe is me when I presume such a thing. Housekeeping genes as standards are particularly notorious, but many is the time when I have either blindly ordered primers according to publications and then been surprised at inefficient amplification under the more-or-less specified conditions, or a poor melting curve, to find that even in silico they shouldn’t have worked.
So, here’s to saving a little time and checking in silico.
The first suggestion is to check that your genomic DNA primers will amplify what you expect. For this, I enjoy using the simple PCR module on UCSC’s (wonderful) Genome Browser. You check that you are using the right organism, and sometimes the right “build” - that is, the right version of the genome sequence against which to check, and the rest is self-explanatory. Sometimes it is also nice to double-check primers that span exons, in case you do get some genomic amplification because of contamination, and to see what the expected size would be if that happened.
The second, is to make use of Primer-BLAST. You know this resource - or should, if you don’t yet:
Primer-BLAST was developed at NCBI to help users make primers that are specific to the input PCR template. It uses Primer3 to design PCR primers and then submits them to BLAST search against [a] user-selected database. The blast results are then automatically analyzed to avoid primer pairs (all combinations including forward-reverse primer pair, forward-forward as well as reverse-reverse pairs) that can cause amplification of targets other than the input template.
So, what I didn’t know, but is perfectly lovely, is the following: Primer-BLAST can check those published primer pairs for you without specifying their target.
That is, you skip the whole first section about PCR Template, and go right to Primer Parameters > Use my own forward primer (and reverse, natch). You don’t have to play around with anything about length or melting temperature, but you scroll right down to Primer Pair Specificity Checking Parameters.
I only change Organism if needed. There are automatic fill-in fields that you need to give a little time to suggest, when you start typing eg. Mus musculus. When I have had doubts as to whether authors who carried out xenotransplantations actually posted their host or their donor amplification sequences, I use the link “Add more organisms” and away we go. Leaving RefSeq RNA (refseq_rna) for the Database is usually fine for checking RT-PCR primers, but there are other options. Like “nr” if you want to play it safe (but it takes slightly longer, of course).
For example, let’s say I want to know for sure what part of the Xenopus Chd7 protein was used to make a recombinant peptide to immunize rabbits and develop the polyclonal antibody used in this publication. I don’t specify whether I want Xenopus laevis or tropicalis, but stick with the genus only.
As a result, I find out that the 30-bp primers provided in the Methods section amplify perfectly and exclusively, a 549-bp fragment of “>NM_001091800.1 Xenopus laevis chromodomain helicase DNA binding protein 7 (chd7), mRNA” - and by following the link, I can figure out which part of the protein it would be. I also know the predicted melting temperatures, giving me an idea of conditions, and alternative amplifications either in other species (Xenopus tropicalis, with a single nucleotide difference in each primer) or in other parts of the genome (just try checking standard primers used against Gapdh sometime). I’ve often seen such single nucleotide differences, which can mean the difference between a PCR that works and one that doesn’t. Typos do happen. Another thing that happened to me today was that I noticed that of the two housekeeping gene primer pairs provided in a publication, the two genes were supposed to amplify with the same primer pair - a simple cut/paste error. While waiting for a response from the authors, perhaps who would have to ask a postdoc long gone from the lab, one can easily find out which one it is.
Then of course, you can make up your mind as to whether you really want to order primers on the basis of confidence in such a lab’s ability to optimize all the parameters. But that is another story for another day.
Meanwhile, I would be eager to find out the following:
1. How do you keep track of PCR primers in your lab, for any use including that of making templates for in vitro RNA probe transcription?
2. Do you annotate as to whether or not they work, or more subtly, the conditions tried for optimization?
3. Do you systematically ensure that primers appear somewhere with publications that use them, either as cited references, tables or supplementary material, or online on your lab website?
4. If you work in a non-muring, non-human, non-Arabidopsis, non-Oryza kind of model organism, are there other similar public resources of PCR primers? Because aside from these, hardly any other organisms are represented in RTPrimerDB. There are something like 5 pairs for Drosophila or Danio, for example.
Ooh. I see there is a “Poll” tab in my author possibilities, but I don’t know how to use it further. Meanwhile, comments and discussion will be much appreciated.
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Also, I’ve played with the new polls feature before I went on vacation, but I forgot the details. It’s mostly straightforward how to create one from the sidebar menu, but to add it into the post you had to take note of a number and I forgot where that was so I’ll have to go through it again. It only does multiple choice (not yes/no) so if you can think of a question with multiple answers to chose from, that can be made into a poll. E-mail me question + answers and I can try to add a poll if you want.
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Because my point is, no matter how good an idea these sort of things seem to be, it’s rare that we want to consecrate more than a fleeting amount of time at any one sitting for the commonwealth, without some sort of incentive. I can’t imagine what the incentive would be for you to do that, unless somehow it was something like plasmids where a person who used them can at least say thank you in the publication, or use the words “generously provided by” etc.
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And no incentive indeed. That’s usually the problem with sharing anything… Although there have been some interesting discussions lately (including at Science Online London) about credit/incentive for uploading data, and primers would probably fit that same bill. The idea that’s being thrown around is that if you can actually say on something like a grant application that you shared primers/data, that it would eventually *matter*.
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Our lab keeps a relatively up-to-date database of all the primers used for mapping, but the only info is the sequence and the genomic location. It would be a great idea to include a column for efficiency of amplification, etc.
To keep track of my personal oligo collection (generally used for amplifying genes/partial genes from cDNA or from plasmids), I use a notebook dedicated to primers which lists the oligo sequence, its use, and sometimes the conditions for optimum amplification. I always think that I should transfer this to a database, but then I am deterred by the mind-numbing work of typing all those sequences. Maybe if I had started out keeping an excel spreadsheet, instead of a paper notebook…I would feel differently…
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It’s not bad already to have the database the way you do, but wouldn’t it be better for labs to put that sort of thing on their websites at least, on their open lab notebook wikis even better?
I only ever type sequences myself - I am too prone to copy errors if I write them out by hand, and I make ample use of cut-and-paste. So spreadsheets and text documents are mandatory.
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The second issue here is the behaviours of the research community. Some journals establishes in their author guidelines that the author agrees in sharing reagents, vectors, primers, etc, with other researchers if they request them. But, in reality, once the paper is published, some authors refuse to share those reagents. And also some authors do not publish detailed protocols, and when some fellow researcher writes an email to those authors, they don’t answer. That is annoying, and journals should have mechanisms to punish those authors that do not respect the guidelines. In the most extreme of the cases, the journal may even retract the paper, specially when authors refuse systematically to share detailed protocols and reagents, because such a behaviour indicates that somethin is wrong, or that results are not easily reproduced, going against the idea of a scientific report.
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I do have a problem with malicious tampering - not-full disclosure. Easy enough to chalk things up to a typo but I have seen a great deal of “mistakes” and necessary omissions which makes me think that, on occasion, someone in the author list wants to control who does what with the information and oblige a scientist to write them and reveal their interest. Perhaps as a potential competitor?
Anyhow, I firmly believe that when a “corresponding author” does not correspond, that the journal is under some reponsibility to intervene. I doubt this would ever go to the point of retraction but it would probably be effective for a representative of the journal to point out that continued behavior of the sort would preclude any other submissions to that journal, and that reputations get made and broken very easily.
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In ancient times (1980’s-1990’s), for our first thousand oligos made, we used to scrupulously keep a log book of each oligonucleotide sequence, its extent of purity, and details on its use. Since automated synthesis has become much cheaper and we usually make many oligos at once, we now just keep the quality control page from the prep, which includes the sequence and basic information about the oligo. The quality control pages are kept in a lab resource binder. Each oligo is still given a lab number, in the binder, and stored in special boxes in our -80oC freezer. We have over 2500 oligos in the lab. So many are made and the cost has gone down, such that it is no longer economical to enter and check the sequence of each one in a database.
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a. what if the binder is destroyed somehow? (Well, perhaps you can pull the sequences out of the supplier again, to a certain extent, and out of your publications, for the ones that were published, and kudos for your policy!)
b. Searching for information is not easy in such a binder - or your earlier log book - and at some point the primer sequences actually were text strings on a computer, to place the order. Why stay analog when it is possible to paste them into a digital file, and later search by keyword or sequence, as well as to store that precious resource in more than one location?
(I’ve been through a lab fire before.)
Now, for everything from the past, I totally understand why no one wants to go back and whip their primer data into standard shape. But prospectively? Or for re-orders?
And, my point is, wouldn’t it be even MORE fantastic if there were a way to upload such files, perhaps standardized in format, to a central resource for the entire community? That is, no more work than the original entry to place the primer order itself, and then all one would have to do is check off a “validated” kind of box, and off it goes… and the resource could automatically calculate what the primers amplify, and one could add metadata if wanted.
A girl can dream.
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